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Post by streamofpassion on Aug 28, 2009 6:21:16 GMT -5
if you were to buy items made out of leather from a thrift shop or auction site like ebay, you would not be directly supporting the cruel leather industry. however, the fact still remains that would would be using/wearing the skins of a dead animal. so, my question is, would you buy second hand leather items? what about leather items you owned before you became veg*n- would you keep them or throw them out?(that is if you owned anything made out of leather)
personally, i own two pairs of combat style boots made out of cow's leather. both were purchased second hand, long before i became really serious about veganism. i still wear the boots every day, to this day, but when they become so worn out that i can't wear them anymore, i'm going to toss them in the trash and buy only pseudo-leather boots- even if second hand- from then on.
of course, i would never buy new leather, but i'm not against veg*ns using leather second hand/ purchased during their pre veg*n days. i would not buy second hand leather in the future, however, simply because i think wearing the skin of a dead animal is icky.
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GYARADOS.
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Post by GYARADOS. on Aug 31, 2009 11:47:14 GMT -5
i completely agree with you both. plus, when people see you wearing fur or leather, whether or not it's second hand doesn't make a difference, they may still think "hey, thats a cool jacket, i want one!" you know?
avery: i also have a suggestion, it might help to lie. telling people that it's pleather. than the might begin to understand that alternatives to animal products are just as good!
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Post by streamofpassion on Sept 2, 2009 1:04:42 GMT -5
I would never wear or buy any animal skin for several reasons. I am a vegan, and I make no exceptions (the only reason I would is if it is somehow in the best interest of non-human animals, which is extremely unlikely). Dead skin does not at all appeal to me, and it would go against my core values. And of course for many people(not me though..), making an exception like that would tempt them to make other exceptions, maybe even to go as far as eating something that has trace animal products. Further, and much more importantly, it does [potentially] support the industry. If I buy some leather gloves on eBay, someone else who might have bought them can't. Then that person goes and buys some new leather gloves from the store. In doing that, I [fairly directly] gave my support to the industry. Of course this also applies to anything from a garage sale, used clothing store, etc.--even if it's free. It's still keeping it from someone else who likely will go and buy new leather (or used leather elsewhere, which in turn causes yet another person to buy new or used leather, and the chain keeps going until someone buys new leather and in doing so supports the industry). Also, if I was in your place (this is just a suggestion, I'm not trying to force you to do anything), I would give the old boots to a used clothing store so that someone else can buy them there and then might not buy new ones. In your case keeping them isn't supporting the industry, but giving/selling them would be opposing the industry by withdrawing someone else's support.
-SV unfortunately, if I did that, I wouldn't have any shoes.
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Post by whirrs on Sept 2, 2009 9:19:25 GMT -5
that's actually really hard. Because leather jackets/boots look and feel so good. plus, pleather never looks/feels like the real thing.
but then you start thinking about the fact that the jacket you have your eyes on is actually a dead animal.
FUUUUUUUU.
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Post by GYARADOS on Sept 2, 2009 10:30:34 GMT -5
I would never wear or buy any animal skin for several reasons. I am a vegan, and I make no exceptions (the only reason I would is if it is somehow in the best interest of non-human animals, which is extremely unlikely). Dead skin does not at all appeal to me, and it would go against my core values. And of course for many people(not me though..), making an exception like that would tempt them to make other exceptions, maybe even to go as far as eating something that has trace animal products. Further, and much more importantly, it does [potentially] support the industry. If I buy some leather gloves on eBay, someone else who might have bought them can't. Then that person goes and buys some new leather gloves from the store. In doing that, I [fairly directly] gave my support to the industry. Of course this also applies to anything from a garage sale, used clothing store, etc.--even if it's free. It's still keeping it from someone else who likely will go and buy new leather (or used leather elsewhere, which in turn causes yet another person to buy new or used leather, and the chain keeps going until someone buys new leather and in doing so supports the industry). Also, if I was in your place (this is just a suggestion, I'm not trying to force you to do anything), I would give the old boots to a used clothing store so that someone else can buy them there and then might not buy new ones. In your case keeping them isn't supporting the industry, but giving/selling them would be opposing the industry by withdrawing someone else's support.
-SV unfortunately, if I did that, I wouldn't have any shoes. just pretend they're vegan, haha.. (it's me, GYARADOS., i was just too lazy to log in...)
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