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Post by Black Dove on May 8, 2010 20:58:20 GMT -5
Do you think prong collars and choker chains should be used on dogs? Here's a website about prong collars- www.cobankopegi.com/prong.html...in case you arem't clear on them... I think we all know what a choker is like... I couldn't find any good sites My personal opinion is a bit hypocritical... I'm all about being the infinite being in your dog-human relationship. I still see them as equals, but I want them to see me as a mother-like figure-loving, but teaching at the same time. I use the prong collar--sparingly, only for walks-- because it reminds the dog of its mother and her jaws gently wrapped around its neck when it's doing something dangerous, innappropriate, etc. If that wasn't hypocritcial enough, I am against chokers. With a prong, it can only tighten about two more inches from where it can sit gently on the dogs neck (with my german shepherds). But with a choker, there is no stopping it from tightening all the way, until your dog is panting for air and practicly strangling itself. DOGS DO NOT LEARN THAT WAY! They learn that walks=choker which=pain and suffering. They won't want to go on walks, and when you force them, they will pull even harder, trying to get home. Atleast, this is how I see it. So yes, the hypocritical Black Dove fully expresses her opinion about collars. ;D What's yours??
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Post by AnimalAvenger on May 9, 2010 19:22:38 GMT -5
To me, they seem comparable to child abuse.
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Post by Black Dove on May 10, 2010 14:21:53 GMT -5
But like with some children, if they have a problem, you fix it. If it's illegal to walk your dog without a leash, or your dog is a bit insane, AND they would pull themselves to death on a walk, what else is there to do? I know all about the horror stories of prong and chokers, but that's ALL the owners fault. They misused them or somehow didn't put it on right. I've tried every single other harness for one of my GSDs. She has tons of shoulder strength, and agression problems, so a prong is the only way I feel safe taking her for a walk.
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Post by AnimalAvenger on May 10, 2010 22:16:45 GMT -5
If it's illegal, take your dog somewhere where it's not or let him/her out in the back yard, instead. If the dog is "insane," let him/her out in the back yard.
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Post by Black Dove on May 11, 2010 20:13:37 GMT -5
See there's the problem.. I have "insane" neighbors who call the cops every time one of my dogs bark. But they (the cops) don't care, because they are all pretty tight with my dad. But then the stupid husband comes out.. and now I'm getting off topic.
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Post by dynastygal on May 16, 2010 17:38:46 GMT -5
The prong one looks like a torture device. Our youngest has a choker on but he already wore that when we got him. We don't use it though, we use his general collar (fabric based one) when on walks. Only reason he still has the choke chain on is because it suits him...mainly for aesthetic reasons tbh.
I prefer not to use any choking devices.
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Post by GYARADOS. on Apr 8, 2011 21:56:39 GMT -5
i can understand using them when you're "training" them and they're very unruly, just for a short while so they learn to to pull too much. but they make me uncomfortable. when i walk my neighbors dog (she doesn't know it but...) when we leave the house i take off the dog's prong collar and flip it inside out so the prongs face out and dont hurt him at all! hhaa
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Post by AnimalAvenger on Apr 13, 2011 19:48:50 GMT -5
i can understand using them when you're "training" them and they're very unruly, just for a short while so they learn to to pull too much. but they make me uncomfortable. when i walk my neighbors dog (she doesn't know it but...) when we leave the house i take off the dog's prong collar and flip it inside out so the prongs face out and dont hurt him at all! hhaa That's awesome that you do that .
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