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Post by AnimalAvenger on Apr 26, 2009 20:28:43 GMT -5
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Post by dynastygal on May 9, 2009 10:36:01 GMT -5
It may not be passed on by eating meat but it highlights just more bad points for raising animals for meat.
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Post by Linn on May 10, 2009 1:02:59 GMT -5
I'm kinda tired of seeing/hearing about the swine flu. It's just the flu. That's all. Yeah, it's going wild in Mexico. Well, the sanitation/healthcare in Mexico sucks. So duh. But we have a vaccination, we have a cure. Why are we freaking out about it? >.< (And I bet the swine flu would still happen if we weren't raising animals for meat. Diseases happen, it's nature's way of picking off the weak. )
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Post by AnimalAvenger on May 10, 2009 1:12:39 GMT -5
^The vaccination does not work for this one.
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Post by Linn on May 10, 2009 2:01:07 GMT -5
Well there's still a cure... ...I dunno. It's making me angry because it's all over. News, internet, school. So we don't have a vaccine, we still have a cure. It isn't going to wipe out everyone on the planet.
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Post by dynastygal on May 10, 2009 8:05:53 GMT -5
I'm kinda tired of seeing/hearing about the swine flu. It's just the flu. That's all. Yeah, it's going wild in Mexico. Well, the sanitation/healthcare in Mexico sucks. So duh. But we have a vaccination, we have a cure. Why are we freaking out about it? >.< (And I bet the swine flu would still happen if we weren't raising animals for meat. Diseases happen, it's nature's way of picking off the weak. ) Why would you think it would still happen? If we weren't raising pigs for meat, we would have no chance of contamination in the first place. Nor would their be breeding grounds for the disease either - the conditions the pigs are kept in. Some diseases do happen, but very rarely are they 'natural'. Many diseases in the modern world are due to mankind and the filth it creates.
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Post by Linn on May 10, 2009 15:37:03 GMT -5
Animals got sick before people started fucking eberything up too. Bacteria didn't just happen because humans evolved. The pigs would get sick, and pass it on to other pigs, birds, primates, rodents, mosquitos, fleas. It wouldn't happen as quickly, but it would happen. And technically, all diseases are natural. There's no such thing as "artificial". Everything came from resources, so it's natural. And we just provide environments for the bacteria to thrive in, we didn't create them.
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Post by AnimalAvenger on May 10, 2009 17:41:23 GMT -5
It also wouldn't happen as often, too, and we'd have way less diseases.
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Post by Linn on May 10, 2009 17:44:17 GMT -5
True... But I guess that's what happens when they pack millions of people into small areas.
WARNING, GOING OFF TOPIC (XD) And all the housing developments where the houses are inches apart. You could be sitting in your bathroom, run out of TP, shout out the window, and have the neighbor hand you some. It's... not right.
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Post by AnimalAvenger on May 10, 2009 18:01:52 GMT -5
That made me laugh a bit, but I agree.
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Post by dynastygal on May 10, 2009 18:44:50 GMT -5
Animals got sick before people started fucking eberything up too. Bacteria didn't just happen because humans evolved. The pigs would get sick, and pass it on to other pigs, birds, primates, rodents, mosquitos, fleas. It wouldn't happen as quickly, but it would happen. And technically, all diseases are natural. There's no such thing as "artificial". Everything came from resources, so it's natural. And we just provide environments for the bacteria to thrive in, we didn't create them. Yes but disease was not as prevalent until human civilization came along and just created masse en masse of breeding grounds. Some disease would never have occured had it not been due to us and the chemicals we spow into the atmosphere and ourselves. Also, given that most animals in the wild are very capable of cleanliness there is even less chance for disease to spread. I don't count what humans do as natural. And we can create disease. So not all disease is natural either. We induce disease into test animals. It's not naturally occurring. There are even many theories AIDS is man-made...but I shan't delve into that.
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Post by Linn on May 10, 2009 18:55:40 GMT -5
I'm not saying that we don't make diseases easier to spread, because we do, but I'm saying that something like the swine flu (not necessarily the exact same virus, but the same basic idea) could, and does, happen out in the wild. Away from farms and "civilization". Rabies is an example. We didn't create that, and it spreads by itself. It has nothing to do with cleanliness, it's just the way it goes. Bacteria can breed in waste, or in animals. And don't tell me that deer in the forest have never stepped in crap, or eaten peed-on leaves. XD
And humans are completely natural. Like... Gold ore comes from the ground. It's a natural substance. Fire happens, it's natural. Melt the ore with fire, skim the other stuff away, mold the melted gold into a chain. It came from natural things, so it's natural.
Diseases spread by themselves. Natural. We're injecting diseases into mice. It's just helping the disease get into it's bloodstream. There's waterskiing squirrels, and crazy stiff like that. Just because it's out of the norm, doesn't mean it isn't natural...
...I didn't explain that very well. XP
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Post by Clyde on May 23, 2009 16:13:40 GMT -5
I'm not saying that we don't make diseases easier to spread, because we do, but I'm saying that something like the swine flu (not necessarily the exact same virus, but the same basic idea) could, and does, happen out in the wild. Away from farms and "civilization". Rabies is an example. We didn't create that, and it spreads by itself. It has nothing to do with cleanliness, it's just the way it goes. Bacteria can breed in waste, or in animals. And don't tell me that deer in the forest have never stepped in crap, or eaten peed-on leaves. XD And humans are completely natural. Like... Gold ore comes from the ground. It's a natural substance. Fire happens, it's natural. Melt the ore with fire, skim the other stuff away, mold the melted gold into a chain. It came from natural things, so it's natural. Diseases spread by themselves. Natural. We're injecting diseases into mice. It's just helping the disease get into it's bloodstream. There's waterskiing squirrels, and crazy stiff like that. Just because it's out of the norm, doesn't mean it isn't natural... ...I didn't explain that very well. XP well i understood it well XD
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Post by whirrs on Aug 14, 2009 3:39:03 GMT -5
I don't know if this is a bit too off topic, but there is a film called Dead Meat.
Basically it's a low budget zombie flick. haha, knowing me, obviously. But it starts from the mad cow rage disease and it gets transmitted to people, turning them into zombies. the government kill all the cows so they don't contaiminate more cows. But my favourite part was the ending when the government kill all the people in the area so they don't contaminate more people.
Which I thought was total animal rights message, putting us in the cow's perspective.
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