Some Dog Flea Drops Can Be Harmful to Cats

[AnimalAvenger]

From another forum (http://thenaturalworld.forumup.com/viewtopic.php?t=5548&mforum=thenaturalworld)

"Permethrin Spot On Products Can Kill Cats

The following spot on products can be deadly for cats:

Advantix Spot On Solution for Dogs
Armitage Pet Care Flea and Tick Drops for Dogs 702mg Spot-on Solution
Beaphar Dog Flea and Tick Drops, 65% w/w, Cutaneous Solution
Bio-tech’s Anti-Flea and Anti-Tick Drops for Dogs
Bio-tech’s Flea and Tick Drops for Dogs
Bob Martin Dog Spot On Solution 744mg
Bob Martin Dog Spot On Solution 1488mg
Bob Martin Flea and Tick Spot On Solution 744mg
Bob Martin Permethrin Dog Spot On
Exspot Insecticide for Dogs
Hartz Control Pet Care System One Spot Flea and Tick Remedy for Dogs
Hyperdrug Veterinary Flea and Tick Drops for Dogs 742mg Cutaneous Solution
Johnson’s Flea and Tick Drops 742mg for Puppies and Small Dogs, Cutaneous Solution
Johnson’s Insecticidal Flea and Tick Drops 742mg, Cutaneous Solution
Protect Spot Flea and Tick Drops for Dogs
Wilko Dog Flea Drops 65% w/w Cutaneous Solution

These products are intended for the treatment of fleas and ticks in dogs only. They contain permethrin, a substance that is safe for dogs but causes a toxic reaction in cats when present in spot on products, due to its concentration. Cats treated with even small amounts of spot on products containing permethrin, or allowed to groom dogs treated with any of the products in the list above, can develop nervous signs such as depression, drooling, tremors, seizures, vomiting and staggering, and can die.

Some pet owners apply spot on products containing permethrin that are indicated for use in dogs to their cats by mistake, or because they think that it is safe if they use only small amounts of the product. It is not safe to use any spot on product containing permethrin in cats. If you have applied any of the products listed above to your cat, it is important to wash off the product from the cat with water and a mild detergent and seek immediate treatment from your veterinary surgeon. Take the product package with you and show it to the veterinarian.

The VMD is actively monitoring the incidence of suspected adverse reactions to these products and requests that any incident be reported as soon as possible. Details of how to report a suspected adverse reaction can be found by following the link
CLICK ON ABOVE LINK TO REPORT"

The link that was supposed to be above but was in another post:
www.vmd.gov.uk/General/Adverse/current.htm

[GYARADOS.]

i dont trust ANY chemical products on any of my companions.
the commercial companies dont really care about our pets, they're the ones feeding them euthanized shelter animals!

i had a flea infestation not long ago, all i did was feed my dog garlic and the fleas wouldnt go near her! (that didnt get the fleas out of my house, of course. i still had to vacuum and stuff)

[streamofpassion]

Never use Hartz brand flea medication for neither cats nor dogs- even the dog variety, used on dogs as intended, has been (frequently!) reported to cause serious, sometimes fatal, reactions. the stuff is cheap for a reason: you get what you pay for.

[streamofpassion]

Aug 22, 2009 19:24:13 GMT -5 GYARADOS. said:

i dont trust ANY chemical products on any of my companions.
the commercial companies dont really care about our pets, they're the ones feeding them euthanized shelter animals!

i had a flea infestation not long ago, all i did was feed my dog garlic and the fleas wouldnt go near her! (that didnt get the fleas out of my house, of course. i still had to vacuum and stuff)

please don't feed garlic to dogs: it is poisonous to them.

[AnimalAvenger]

The cheap crap doesn't even work well, at least when my cat had fleas. What did work for her, however, was Advantage.

www.hartzkills.org/
www.hartzvictims.org/
hartzkills.wordpress.com/about/

[GYARADOS.]

Aug 28, 2009 6:29:38 GMT -5 @streamofpassion said:

Aug 22, 2009 19:24:13 GMT -5 GYARADOS. said:

i dont trust ANY chemical products on any of my companions.
the commercial companies dont really care about our pets, they're the ones feeding them euthanized shelter animals!

i had a flea infestation not long ago, all i did was feed my dog garlic and the fleas wouldnt go near her! (that didnt get the fleas out of my house, of course. i still had to vacuum and stuff)

please don't feed garlic to dogs: it is poisonous to them.

actually, i heard that too, but i did some reasurch and read "natural health for dogs and cats"
everyone i talked to and all the website/books i read said that garlic was fine for dogs. if did mention that onions werent the best thing for dogs though.

[AnimalAvenger]

Aug 30, 2009 16:12:19 GMT -5 GYARADOS. said:

Aug 28, 2009 6:29:38 GMT -5 @streamofpassion said:

please don't feed garlic to dogs: it is poisonous to them.

actually, i heard that too, but i did some reasurch and read "natural health for dogs and cats"
everyone i talked to and all the website/books i read said that garlic was fine for dogs. if did mention that onions werent the best thing for dogs though.

What are your specific sources?

[GYARADOS.]

natural health for dogs and cats by Dr. Pitcairn
www.thriftyfun.com/tf72204470.tip.html
www.sojos.com/garlicarticle.html
there were a few more website, but i couldnt find them



oh, and many dog treat recipe ive seen calls for garlic. they say that garlic is only toxiic if it is raw or rotten, apparently when it's cooked it's just dandy!

but! i am not a expert, so you may veeyr well be right.
i did have a friend thought hat fed her dogs garlic everyday and they're health significantly improved. mostly because they were free from their flea infestation.

[streamofpassion]

Aug 30, 2009 16:12:19 GMT -5 GYARADOS. said:

Aug 28, 2009 6:29:38 GMT -5 @streamofpassion said:

please don't feed garlic to dogs: it is poisonous to them.

actually, i heard that too, but i did some reasurch and read "natural health for dogs and cats"
everyone i talked to and all the website/books i read said that garlic was fine for dogs. if did mention that onions werent the best thing for dogs though.

even as one of your links states, both onions and garlic contain thiosulphate, a chemical that is toxic to dogs and results in vomiting, diarrhea, lethargy, loss of appetite, breathlessness, and potentially death. even if one clove of garlic fed to a dog on one single occasion is not enough to kill a dog, teaching your dog to enjoy the taste of garlic and recognize it as food can encourage him/her to steal garlic and eat large quantities of it when she/he is left for a few moments unsupervised. feeding even small quantities of garlic over an extended period of time can make a dog sick and therefore, if one cares about the health of their dog, it is better to be safe than sorry by not feeding garlic.

by the way, i've never come across any reason to believe that cooking garlic or onions affects the thiosulphate in them in any way, therefore you can't assume that because someone claims cooked garlic is alright for dogs that it really is safe. also, the prevalence of garlic in dog treat recipes only shows how many people are ignorant about human foods that are toxic to their pets.. I am horrified by how many people I come across who think it's OK to feed their dogs chocolate, for instance.

it's like feeding just a little bit of cyanide to a human..

[GYARADOS.]

Sept 2, 2009 4:05:46 GMT -5 @streamofpassion said:

Aug 30, 2009 16:12:19 GMT -5 GYARADOS. said:

actually, i heard that too, but i did some reasurch and read "natural health for dogs and cats"
everyone i talked to and all the website/books i read said that garlic was fine for dogs. if did mention that onions werent the best thing for dogs though.

even as one of your links states, both onions and garlic contain thiosulphate, a chemical that is toxic to dogs and results in vomiting, diarrhea, lethargy, loss of appetite, breathlessness, and potentially death. even if one clove of garlic fed to a dog on one single occasion is not enough to kill a dog, teaching your dog to enjoy the taste of garlic and recognize it as food can encourage him/her to steal garlic and eat large quantities of it when she/he is left for a few moments unsupervised. feeding even small quantities of garlic over an extended period of time can make a dog sick and therefore, if one cares about the health of their dog, it is better to be safe than sorry by not feeding garlic.

by the way, i've never come across any reason to believe that cooking garlic or onions affects the thiosulphate in them in any way, therefore you can't assume that because someone claims cooked garlic is alright for dogs that it really is safe. also, the prevalence of garlic in dog treat recipes only shows how many people are ignorant about human foods that are toxic to their pets.. I am horrified by how many people I come across who think it's OK to feed their dogs chocolate, for instance.

it's like feeding just a little bit of cyanide to a human..

you got some really good points. i guess just the fact that some web sites said "it's toxic" should have been enough, i should ahve gone looking for one that siad "it's ok!" if even one had said it was not. (hope that made sense) either way, you're right, no more garlic for my pup.

[moreliathea]

It is harmful using any product in a way that wasn't intended. Dog drops should never be used on cats, whatsoever.

Flea drops really shouldn't need to be used in the first place, because responsible pet owners should care enough to prevent a flea infestation in the first place.

[AnimalAvenger]

Flea drops really shouldn't need to be used in the first place, because responsible pet owners should care enough to prevent a flea infestation in the first place.

It can be quite hard to prevent a flea infestation. A year ago, my cat was perfectly clean and had no contact with the outside world at all, but she still got fleas.

[GYARADOS.]

oh shit, i've gone and deleted my icon.