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Post by Black Dove on Aug 9, 2009 16:23:33 GMT -5
This is always a good one! Discuss your thoughts on religion, ask questions, whatever. I have been an agnostic/athiest mix for about two years now. I don't believe in the Bible, I don't believe in God, I say church is fake. I am on the fence about the big bang theory. I feel it or science could be the reason we are here, we are just like any other species on Earth, we are just what scientists call an intelligent species. And since we're here, why can't there be aliens? That's a different debate. I don't believe in any religion because there are not enough facts for me. A few questions I have are: How can a guy survive in a whale? How did some "virgin" get pregnant? Its not a miracle, either FYI. Why would some greater being want to make such a destructive being such as ourselves? Why isn't "god" making his presence known? I have many, many more, and I am willing to share! So yup, you can post now, I'm finished.... so far.
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Post by AnimalAvenger on Aug 9, 2009 19:57:53 GMT -5
I am also agnostic. I am thinking about going atheist, though. I was taught some Christian beliefs by my mother, but I no longer believe in most of them. Of course, I wasn't taught that much, probably because I've only been in a church a few times in my entire life.
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Post by Black Dove on Aug 9, 2009 20:03:14 GMT -5
I was taught to be Presbyterian by my grandmother up until only a few years ago. That's when I started realizing how moronic most of the stuff sounds.
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Linn
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Post by Linn on Aug 10, 2009 21:27:21 GMT -5
Oh goody, religion. I'm very, very, very against it. Almost to the point of being violently against it. I don't like it for several reasons. One of my friends that I've known for most of my life is Christian. She recently told me that "god" has been telling her to stop being friends with me, and another friend of mine. We're "not good influences" and she "wants to live her life for 'god'". She's letting religion tell her who to be friends with? Not okay. Also, if "god" is benevolent and "loves all his children", why have the last 3 years of my life happened? I've lost 6 family members in 3 years. Plus all kinds of other fun things. If "god" loves all his children, we must not be related, or "he" hates me. That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's people out there with much worse lives. Bad enough lives that they commit suicide. Aren't they "his" children too? Or are they not related either? Or does "he" hate them as well? So... Why would I want to believe in someone like that? And why would I worship them? Religion also just doesn't make sense to me. "God created it all in 3 (or howevermany) days" just doesn't fly when you look at the theory of evolution. Bible (which may have been an early idea of a sick joke) VS fossil. Hmm... If "god" loves all his creations, I don't see why "he"'s still letting us raise animals in factory farms. Aren't animals "his" creations too? Plus, I watched a show once where scientists played with a baby chicken's genes. They put a protien at the base of the tail, and it grew a reptillian (dinosaur-like) tail. They also messed with another one and it didn't start growing feathers. Apparently the feathers could be changed into scales. It was a fascinating show, I should look it up and post a link if I ever remember what it was called... :/ Anyway, now I've been sidetracked... There's a lot of different religions. The Egyptians have multiple gods, there's Jehovah, Allah, God, Jesus. If there was a god, why aren't all the stories the same? There's just so much more evidence for the big-bang theory, evolution, and all of that. Everything has an explination that's more believable and plausable than "'God' used his superpowers" to create everything. ** I'm not attacking religion and I'm sorry if I offend anybody, but these are my views on the matter. I've got no problem with religious people, one of my best friends is religious, it's the religions themselves that I have a problem with. ;D
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Post by Black Dove on Aug 11, 2009 20:29:26 GMT -5
You make many incredible points. I also have had someone tell me they couldn't be friends with me because of my beliefs. I also had a controversey at school with chorus, but that's another story.
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Post by Linn on Aug 12, 2009 2:24:55 GMT -5
Thank you. ^^ You do too. And with the friend thing, I understand that some people were raised to be religous, but I can't understand letting it take over your life like that. I think that if you like the person that you shouldn't let religon get in the way of a friendship.
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Post by .: Z I Z I A :. on Aug 12, 2009 3:59:12 GMT -5
If God loves all his children, then why does he hate gays? Or why are people claiming he does. Excuse my language, but is this not eiffed up? www.godhatesfags.com/This people from the church, a munch of old ladies, goes to veterans funerals to protest outside with signs and chanting. Why? Because the veterans fought for a country that supports gays. This makes me want to strangle someone. IT'S SO STUPID TOO!!! AHHHH! I HATE IT SOOO MUCH!!!! It makes me want to cry and kill someone at the same time. I hate it. How are people really that stupid. And to tie it back to Church, how can people take the bible THAT FAR!!! AHHHH! *Slams head on desk then walks off to cool down* *Five minutes later* Sorry, that kind of stupidity gets me really worked up. That's why I hate religion. But at the same time, religion has saved people from killing themselves and stuff like that. But I think it hurts people more than it saves. And people who are saved by religion are usually the ones who go and hurt others.... Uhg. Me? I believe in God. Just not the way any church teachs it. [Edit] Holy crap. I was looking on there site, and this was soooo... unbelievable it made me laugh; THANK GOD FOR MIDAIR CRASH IN NEW YORK, THAT PUNISHED FAG-INFESTED PENNSYLVANIA, ITALY, NEW ZEALAND, AND NEW YORK, USA (9 DEAD) - ALL HATED OF GOD, PERSECUTORS OF WBC FOR PREACHING THE GOSPEL, EXPOSING SODOMITES
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Post by .: Z I Z I A :. on Aug 13, 2009 0:10:24 GMT -5
When he everyone says he loves everyone! Exactly! Uhg... People make me mad...
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Post by Linn on Aug 13, 2009 2:10:10 GMT -5
Yeah, me too. That's why I'm going to be a hitperson when I graduate from collage (who would suspect the small-town vet?). I'm going to weed out as many idiots as I can, then suicide bomb when the police are onto me. ;D
Just kidding but that would be AWESOME.......
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Post by .: Z I Z I A :. on Aug 17, 2009 23:17:30 GMT -5
Lol, I'm with yah on that one. That would be awesome. But totally illegal, and you cant fight fire with fire...
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Post by AnimalAvenger on Aug 17, 2009 23:23:46 GMT -5
Hehe. Please try not to offend anyone on this thread. This is a very controversial subject that could easily offend some people, even if it's on accident. Just a reminder. Also, please try to stick to debating. Also, Zizza, I think I might've messaged you.
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Post by GYARADOS. on Sept 20, 2009 18:48:27 GMT -5
not being friends with people because "god"/ your beliefs state that you shouldnt, is like me not being friends with people because they eat meat. thts stupid.
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